As someone put it on the 506sports Discord, we may have a 4-8 vs. 4-8 flex-eligible primetime game because of a cartoon sitcom.
On Monday Disney released another trailer for their “The Simpsons Funday Football” alternate broadcast of the Week 14 Monday night game, seemingly doubling down on that game remaining Bengals-Cowboys. Shortly afterward, a Bengals beat writer tweeted that the game is ineligible to be flexed out due to all the work that has gone into the various art assets that would be used on the broadcast. Even considering the source I’m not sure I buy that it literally can’t be moved, but it’s pretty clear that Disney doesn’t want to back out of Bengals-Cowboys, and flexing it out would effectively cancel the alt-cast as reconfiguring it to work with another game would not be possible.
This likely all started with Disney not getting another Sunday morning European game this year, with its ESPN+ game instead forming part of a Monday night “doubleheader”. The previous “Toy Story Funday Football” alt-cast was associated with a European game that wasn’t subject to flexing, and if this had been in the works for long enough the idea may have been that this would be too. ESPN had explicitly said that the ESPN+ game would be an international game when the contracts were announced so I don’t think they would have backed away from that if Disney themselves didn’t want to (then again, I could say the same about Fox’s “as the schedule allows” Christmas games considering next year Christmas falls on a Thursday and the league could schedule two Christmas games with neither one on Fox), but nonetheless it was a change that may have left the people behind the alt-cast scrambling.
In retrospect, Disney probably should have chosen a game for the alt-cast that fell outside the flexible scheduling window and not run the risk of the game being flexed out, or at least not put themselves in the position where the league might want to flex the game out. But Bengals-Cowboys must have seemed like a pretty safe bet if the decision was made before the season or even in September. Disney surely observed the league’s practice of “Cowboys uber alles” over the last decade and a half, where Cowboys games would never be flexed out of Sunday nights even in situations where they absolutely would be for any other team, and figured that would apply here too. And hey, not only are the Cowboys always relevant in the Dak Prescott era, they’re playing the Bengals and Joe Burrow, who should always be contenders. So it may technically be flexible, but it’s not really flexible, is it?
Well, things haven’t worked out that way. The Bengals got out to what initially seemed like another slow start, something they haven’t been strangers to in the Burrow era, but have never really caught fire the way they have in years past, and after yet another blown lead against the Chargers their playoff hopes may be hanging by a thread. Against the Cowboys, that might not normally be enough to be flexed out. But the Cowboys aren’t just bad; with Prescott done for the season, they may well be actively tanking at this point, giving up on the season entirely. And Cowboys or no Cowboys, why would the league want to put on a team that isn’t even trying?
Perhaps the worst thing about it is, if the alt-cast really is preventing the league from flexing the game out, it’s not even a viable data point for where the bar is to flex out a Cowboys game. It’s a case where both teams could have poor records and be out of playoff contention, which has rarely been the case for past bad Cowboys games, but unlike with the one Cowboys game that did get flexed out, there shouldn’t be a risk that both teams will be eliminated from the playoffs entirely by the time the game kicks off, so there’s no way of knowing whether that situation would be enough for a flex in the future. We may never know if the only reason Bengals-Cowboys shows up on ESPN’s air in two and a half weeks is for the sake of an alt-cast that should get a fraction of the game’s audience.
How NFL flexible scheduling works: (see also the NFL’s own page on flex schedule procedures)
- Up to two games in Weeks 5-10 (the “early flex” period), and any number of games from Week 11 onward, may be flexed into Sunday Night Football. Any number of games from Week 12 onward may be flexed into Monday Night Football, and up to two games from Week 13 onward may be flexed into Thursday Night Football. In addition, in select weeks in December a number of games may be listed as “TBD”, with two or three of those games being assigned to be played on Saturday. Note that I only cover early flexes if a star player on one of the teams is injured.
- Only games scheduled for Sunday afternoon, or set aside for a potential move to Saturday, may be flexed into one of the flex-eligible windows – not existing primetime games or games in other standalone windows. The game currently listed in the flex-eligible window will take the flexed-in game’s space on the Sunday afternoon slate, generally on the network that the flexed-in game was originally scheduled for. The league may also move Sunday afternoon games between 1 PM ET and 4:05 or 4:25 PM ET.
- Thursday Night Football flex moves must be announced 28 days in advance. Sunday and Monday Night Football moves must be announced 12 days in advance, except for Sunday night games in Week 14 onward, which can be announced at any point up until 6 days in advance.
- CBS and Fox have the right to protect one game each per week, among the games scheduled for their networks, from being flexed into primetime windows. During the early flex period, they may protect games at any point once the league tells them they’re thinking of pulling the flex. It’s not known when they must protect games in the main flex period, only that it’s “significantly closer to each game date” relative to the old deadline of Week 5. My assumption is that protections are due five weeks in advance, in accordance with the 28-day deadline for TNF flexes. Protections have never been officially publicized, and have not leaked en masse since 2014, so can only be speculated on.
- Supposedly, CBS and Fox are also guaranteed one half of each division rivalry. Notably, last year some Week 18 games (see below) had their other halves scheduled for the other conference’s network, though none were scheduled for primetime.
- No team may appear more than seven times in primetime windows – six scheduled before the season plus one flexed in. This appears to consider only the actual time the game is played, that is, Amazon’s Black Friday game does not count even though the rest of their TNF slate does, and NBC’s Saturday afternoon game Week 16 doesn’t count either. This post contains a list of all teams’ primetime appearances entering the season.
- Teams may play no more than two Thursday games following Sunday games, and (apparently) no more than one of them can be on the road.
- In Week 18 the entire schedule, consisting entirely of games between divisional opponents, is set on six days’ notice, usually during the previous week’s Sunday night game. One game will be scheduled for Sunday night, usually a game that decides who wins the division, a game where the winner is guaranteed to make the playoffs while the loser is out, or a game where one team makes the playoffs with a win but falls behind the winner of another game, and thus loses the division and/or misses the playoffs, with a loss. Two more games with playoff implications are scheduled for Saturday on ABC and ESPN, with the remaining games doled out to CBS and Fox on Sunday afternoon, with the league generally trying to maximize what each team has to play for. Protections and appearance limits do not apply to Week 18.
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Week 13 final schedule commentary (Week 10 post): So the league does pull an early flex for a team being bad without any key injuries after signaling last year that they wouldn’t do that, as well as flexing out a game where the worse team has a star quarterback that can pop a rating regardless of their record for one where the worse team is only a game better than the one in the tentative, but doesn’t flex out a game involving a 2-8 team that should be easy to replace. Make it make sense. I guess I was right the first time when I suggested the league would be all the more reticent to give a team Monday night games in consecutive weeks than they are on Sundays, even if it’s the week after an existing Monday night game so all you’re doing is alleviating an existing rest mismatch. (I saw some concern that the league may have been worried about the effect on flexing in Falcons-Vikings the next week, but so much for that.) Possibly also a factor may have been that, with Browns-Broncos a West Coast game pinned to the late window if it was flexed out, it would have prevented CBS from showing Eagles-Ravens to a full national audience without some otherwise-needless crossflexes (when Fox already has two late singleheader games).
Week 14: See above. It’s also worth noting that I laid out in last week’s post how difficult the decision would be for Fox and the league which games should stay with Fox and which one should be flexed in; Falcons-Vikings is the best game but the rest of Fox’s early slate is weak enough that if it were flexed in Bengals-Cowboys may well end up anchoring the slot, and if it’s good enough to do that it’s good enough to stay on Monday night. (Also, if you flex in Falcons-Vikings you have to flex out Falcons-Raiders next week given the concerns about a rest mismatch that came up around Week 13.)
As for the late games, the good news would be that the Rams won to get back to .500 while the Bears, despite losing, arguably outplayed the Packers only to be screwed over by their coach’s conservativism; the bad news is that the Niners seemingly confirmed that they’re not the team we’re used to seeing from them by losing at home to a Seahawks team that might be the worst one in the division. Flexing in one of the late games means either Fox has to feature a game between two mediocre, albeit big-name, teams, or the league flexes in a game with a team only a game better than the worse team in the tentative again. The Cowboys are heavy underdogs against Washington but the other teams at 5-5 or worse are underdogs as well this week, so it may well be likely that things shake out such that even without the alt-cast, the “Cowboys uber alles” approach is entirely understandable. I’d still do a Last-Minute Remarks post under normal circumstances, but I’d have a pretty poor read on what the league might do no matter what, so there’s a part of me that’s almost relieved that these aren’t normal circumstances. Final prediction: no changes.
Week 15: The two games that are clearly the best on the slate are the two lead late doubleheader games, which could pose a problem for CBS and Fox since they’d have to compete with each other. The Raiders continue to be one of the worst teams in the league, but it’s not like there were much in the way of expectations for them to begin with, and it’s not clear how much ESPN cares about the cable-only halves of these “doubleheaders”. On the other hand, that also means that even if the league’s only alternatives involve teams just below .500, the league might still be willing to pull the trigger.
Early in the season it looked like Colts-Broncos might be our first game to be flexed into Thursday night, but not only did the Rams improve on their slow start, the Colts are not looking very good at all, and a feisty Bucs team that took both of last year’s Super Bowl participants down to the wire – admittedly at home – could end up making their game with the Chargers the best choice. But no team has been scheduled for more than two Monday night games entering the season in the two years of the Monday-night flex era, so I’m not sure if the Chargers can end up with four, let alone three in four weeks.
Week 16: Barring a surprise announcement in the next twelve hours or so, the league seems to have passed up chances to flex out of two Browns games this week, seemingly validating the fears I laid out way back in my Week 7 post. Now all attention turns to the rest of the week’s featured games, which are mostly pretty lackluster; CBS’ late game may well actually be in the best shape, even before considering how lackluster the rest of their alternatives are, given that the Dolphins may be better than their record considering the games Tua missed.
The primetime games, though? If Bengals-Cowboys doesn’t become the second Cowboys game to be flexed out, Bucs-Cowboys easily could be, yet even after following up their upset win over the Falcons with a blowout of the Browns, the Saints continue to look like flex-out material as well. If that win streak turns out to be a mirage, both games’ fate could well depend on what Fox does with its protections. Could Fox be willing to give up both Broncos-Chargers and Vikings-Seahawks, two games trapped in the late singleheader with limited distribution, considering the two strong divisional matchups anchoring their singleheader slate that don’t need to be protected, perhaps preferring to keep Giants-Falcons, and considering unexpected Cowboys and Packers games to be acceptable consolation prizes? The league would sure want them to.
Week 17: Of the Browns games I expressed concern about in Week 7, it looks like there’s just one left. The league has a big decision to make with Falcons-Palpatines: leave it to anchor the NFL Network tripleheader, potentially dooming NBC to air a highly lackluster Dolphins-Browns contest, or send it to NBC but leave NFL Network to air a game involving a bad team with no playoff hopes? The problem is that only three games on the Fox and CBS slates aren’t divisional rematches of games on the wrong network, and all of them pit two teams at 4-6 or worse.
Right now if I had to guess, I would think the league would go ahead and put Falcons-Palpatines on Sunday night, and lead off the tripleheader with whichever of the Colts and Chargers is in better playoff shape, on grounds that NBC is more important than NFL Network (and if the Dolphins can’t get back into the playoff race, at least all of the four games would have playoff implications for at least one team), but I could also see them putting pressure on CBS to leave Panthers-Bucs unprotected if the Panthers go on enough of a run to at least have a shot at stealing the division. Meanwhile, keep an eye on Fox’s late doubleheader window; if the Cowboys continue to tank, having Cowboys-Eagles switch places with Packers-Vikings could look mighty appealing.
Week 18: Niners-Cardinals and Vikings-Lions continue to be the best bets for games being picked for standalone windows, though if the Niners start to fall behind the rest of the NFC West pack that game might start to fade (and Seahawks-Rams may become a contender for a Saturday move). Chiefs-Broncos could be in the running as well if the Chiefs still have something to play for and a Saturday move wouldn’t run the risk of depriving other teams, such as the Bills, of having something to play for (brrr).
Otherwise, at least if I was setting the schedule, the Saturday games would all depend on which teams are in the back of the tiebreaker order. Bengals-Steelers would need to avoid the risk of potentially depriving the Ravens or other teams of having anything to play for, but Dolphins-Jets and Jaguars-Colts could be options; in the NFC, the NFC West games and Saints-Bucs could be in the running if they manage to close the gap with Washington, while Bears-Packers would be more complicated. If both the Saints and Bucs start to rally, keep an eye on Panthers-Falcons as well. If the current NFC division races don’t change, Giants-Eagles could be an intriguing possibility if Washington is still fighting for the wild card and the Lions need to beat the Vikings to sew up the division. Finally, if worst comes to worst and the league just prioritizes “playoff implications” over depriving other teams of playoff implications, they might turn to Chargers-Raiders or Natives-Cowboys for wild card seeding, Bills-Patriots or Texans-Titans for seeding among the AFC division winners, or Browns-Ravens for whatever category the Ravens end up in (again, dependent on what the Steelers might have to play for).
Apparently DEN/LAC is being considered to be moved to TNF for Week 16.
What I think happened was this:
ESPN+ was supposed to get an international game, but because of scheduling quirks resulting in the NFL being able to have a Friday night game in Brazil (that wound up airing on Peacock and the NFL will be able to do again next year) likely left them one international game short for the NFL Network games (there have usually been two games in Germany, this year there was only one) as they likely were limited to six such games (including the game in Mexico City). NFL Network likely got all of the European games because that same scheduling quirk that allowed the Week 1 game in Brazil also meant NFL Network’s normal Week 15 tripleheader had to be moved to Week 17 because Week 15 is the last week there can be no games on Friday night or Saturday. On top of that. NFL Network in the past has had games in Week 16 but originally none were scheduled for that day to avoid going opposite the College Football Playoff (two games on TNT, two on ESPN/ABC) as the NFL originally was not planning to play on Christmas Day due to it being a Wednesday. That left the NFL with no choice but to give Disney it’s ESPN+ game as a second Monday night game. Of course, later the NFL reversed itself when they found broadcast partners were willing to pay a ton for two Christmas Day games so the NFL reversed itself on Christmas Day and had to schedule two games for Saturday, December 21 opposite the TNT CFP games (and I still can see elected officials in certain states, especially if Alabama is in the first round of the CFP as widely expected as well as possibly Georgia going to court to force the games scheduled for Saturday 12/21 off that date, moved to probably Monday 12/30 at the same times there were scheduled for on 12/21 (Texans-Chiefs on NBC at 1:00 PM ET, Steelers-Ravens on FOX at 4:30 PM ET). While highly unlikely, that is still a possibility to me where the Christmas Day games would end Week 16 instead of starting Week 17 and the games moved to Monday 12/30 being part of Week 17 instead.
I still don’t see any changes for Weeks 14-16 but I would think at this point, if it turned out the games of Saturday 12/21 did have to be moved off that day to Week 17, NBC would simply flip-flop their games with Texans-Chiefs moved to SNF and Dolphins-Browns moved to Monday 12/30 at 1:00 PM (FOX would keep Ravens-Steelers at 4:30). That would actually make things a lot easier on the NFL if NBC were able to bury Dolphins-Steelers at 1:00 PM on a Monday that although it is a workday is one many take off as many do take off the week between Christmas and New Year’s.
As for Week 18, as already noted if the Cardinals-49ers rematch is for the NFC West and can’t affect any other races, then that will be the Sunday night game.
Obviously where I said Dolphins-Steelers I meant Dolphins-Browns.
As for the ESPN+ situation, I suspect for 2025 If there is an international game in Week 1, perhaps that this time is on a Saturday morning (with say an 8:00 or 9:00 AM ET kickoff) in England or Germany and that being ESPN+ ahead of college football with NFL Network getting a late Friday or Saturday night game (most likely a 10:30 PM ET kickoff) in Week 1 as well, possibly done in exchange for the NFL agreeing not to have games the week of the first round of the College Football Playoff that Friday or Saturday in future years (this is the first year of the 12-team CFP).
https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1859990658431488370
Broncs-Bolts to TNF W16
Yep. That is the only change I see happening in Week 16.
Week 17 as said depends on whether or not (though highly unlikely) elected official in college football-crazed states where college football is bigger than the NFL sue to force the NFL to move the Saturday 12/21 games to most likely Monday 12/30. Then, NBC in that scenario could simply move Texans-Chiefs to Sunday 12/29 while moving Dolphins-Browns to 1:00 PM Monday 12/30.
Walt, there have never been 2 games in Germany, in the same season.
You’re right, Jeff. There has never been 2 games in Germany in a same NFL season. Can I ask you a question, Jeff. This is a what if question? If Chicago bears somehow finds a way to play better football when they barely lost against the Packers at Chicago this past Sunday, 20 to 19, do you think it’s possible that Packers vs. Chicago bears game at Lambeau field week 18 be on CBS with Nantz/Romo/Wolfson announcing this season related to playoff implications like last season? That would be exciting if this happens again like last season. If not, it could easily be a SNF game related to wild card implications. Also, on the NFL playoffs this season, I hope there would be KC Chiefs vs Buffalo Bills on one of the playoff rounds on tv channel CBS with Nantz/Romo/Wolfson with possibly at KC.
You’re right Jeff:
For some reason, I thought there were two games in Germany.
Perhaps for 2025, since the NFL can have Friday and Saturday games in Week 1. the NFL has a week 1 game in Germany Saturday morning with a 9:00 AM ET kickoff (and a late-night NFL game with a 10:30 PM ET kickoff on NFL Network so its after most high school and college games) and the Brazil game perhaps played as a Sunday night game later in the season. Maybe deals are also worked out where the NFL can permanently have a few Saturday European game that kick off no later than 9:00 AM New York time (since such games would conclude before most high school and college games kick off on a typical Saturday) in exchange for not playing the week of the first round of the College Football Playoff.
Obviously in that last post I meant the Saturday of the first round of the CFP.
I see no flexes coming up for week 14 as Bills at Rams will be the Fox 325 Main DH game as that game is safe, Chargers at Chiefs is safe as the Sunday Night Game and we already know due to the Simpsons voice-overs Bengals Cowboys will stay as the MNF game. Wondering If Jim Nantz and Tony Romo will call Seahawks at Cardinals which looks to be the best game for CBS that weekend or will they take another week off since CBS has a weak lineup, I don’t think they will do Jets Dolphins since the Jets are already looking ahead to next year.
Week 15 Bills at Lions and Steelers at Eagles will be the 325 DH games for CBS and Fox respectively as I expect both will be protected. I do think Packers at Seahawks is safe on SNF, while Falcons at Raiders is likely to be flexed out of MNF. I think Bucs at Chargers will likely replace that game. I do think Bears Vikings the ABC game will stay with the Vikings be in contention even though Chicago is on this losing streak but they are a big market and of course the Caleb Williams factor.
Week 16: If I had to guess right now I think 49ers at Dolphins will remain the CBS DH game even though the 49ers playoff chances are slipping away with so many key injuries while the Dolphins are back on track with a huge game coming up Thanksgiving night at Lambeau Field. Dolphins do have a manageable schedule coming up after the Packers game so maybe this will stay. So I think if I had to guess right now something is telling me that Bucs at Cowboys will be the SNF game. Bucs do have a manageable schedule coming up and same with the Cowboys so maybe just maybe this stays. I think Saints at Packers will stay as the MNF game for week 16 as the Saints have played better since changing head coaches. I am going to guess that Fox will protect Eagles at Commanders for that week.
Week 17: I think the NFL Network Triple-header will be if I had to guess right now will be Broncos at Bengals, Cardinals at Rams and Falcons at Commanders. Right now I think Vikings Packers will be the new SNF game as Browns Dolphins looks like it will likely be flexed out as the Browns are very close to being eliminated from the Playoffs. If Eagles Cowboys gets flexed out of the 325 slot for the Fox DH game then I think Vikings Packers will be the new 325 game where then I think Falcons at Commanders is the new SNF game in place of Browns Dolphins and the NFL Triple-header will then be Chargers Patriots, Rams Cardinals and Bengals Broncos.
Week 18: Too early to tell.
Hi Brian,
After the results of Week 12, Chicago at Green Bay is looking like no chance for Primetime in Week 18, especially with the matchup of Minnesota at Detroit that same weekend.
As for Week 14, I say no flexes as well, even MNF is now a battle of 2 teams that are 4-7.
Week 17’s TNF needs a flex decision by this coming Thursday and it’s Sea. (6-5) @ Chi. (4-7) and I think that will stay put.